StinktOldC
Oct 15, 03:22 PM
"That's like saying you don't want to kiss your lover's lips because everyone has lips".
Steady on Steve!
Steady on Steve!
chrono1081
Apr 2, 05:12 AM
Apple always does that, yet people still buy the next ver of their hardware. If people stopped buying into their games of incremental fragmented releases, Apple would quit doing it.
Please show me a company that doesn't do that. You know that there is a lot more technology out there then what is on the market right?
Please show me a company that doesn't do that. You know that there is a lot more technology out there then what is on the market right?
autrefois
Sep 22, 01:30 PM
This is morally and most likely legally wrong for Wal-Mart to do. Not that either of those are new to the folks running Wal-Mart.
I seem to remember a different sentiment on these forums when it was announced Wal-Mart would start selling iPods. People who said Wal-Mart was a bad corporate citizen were called naive, were told that that's how business is done, long live the invisible hand of capitalism, etc.
Now that Wal-Mart is trying to squash Apple's move into the movie arena, I see some people have come around. And with the sort of success iTunes seems to be having with movies so far, there just may be some studios who stand up to Wal-Mart too for a change. So in a way, I thank Wal-Mart for pulling this idiotic stunt to open up people's eyes. :)
I seem to remember a different sentiment on these forums when it was announced Wal-Mart would start selling iPods. People who said Wal-Mart was a bad corporate citizen were called naive, were told that that's how business is done, long live the invisible hand of capitalism, etc.
Now that Wal-Mart is trying to squash Apple's move into the movie arena, I see some people have come around. And with the sort of success iTunes seems to be having with movies so far, there just may be some studios who stand up to Wal-Mart too for a change. So in a way, I thank Wal-Mart for pulling this idiotic stunt to open up people's eyes. :)
ericinboston
Apr 12, 11:52 AM
... then sit back and watch everyone complain about the high priced products! Yeah, sounds like a winner.
And not complain about Apple's margins?
Gimme a break...just because something is manufactured in the USA does not instantly mean it's pricier to the end consumer. There are a LOT of reasons why businesses invest outside the US and typically at the end of the day it's the COMPANY that wants to SAVE money and KEEP THOSE SAVINGS.
Do you really think the company passes 100% of the savings on to the consumer? How about 50% of those savings. Keep going....
And not complain about Apple's margins?
Gimme a break...just because something is manufactured in the USA does not instantly mean it's pricier to the end consumer. There are a LOT of reasons why businesses invest outside the US and typically at the end of the day it's the COMPANY that wants to SAVE money and KEEP THOSE SAVINGS.
Do you really think the company passes 100% of the savings on to the consumer? How about 50% of those savings. Keep going....
Whozown
Apr 2, 06:39 AM
more MP's ≠ better photos.
Better sensor = BETTER photos.
Better sensor = BETTER photos.
steviem
Apr 26, 03:17 AM
London is not representative of the rest of the UK at all. It skews almost every figure released that is related to population. I've never seen anyone with a gun, I don't know anyone with a gun and I doubt I ever will.
This is always going to be the case when a single city has over 12% of the country's population.
Exactly. You're more likely to know someone with a gun if you live in the countryside anyway. The only people I saw holding guns in London were two Police Officers on the beat around Waterloo Station when I used to walk to work from Waterloo to Piccadilly Circus and outside the US Embassy when I went for my visa interview last month. Oh, also one of my dad's ex coworkers had a gun, but he was in an armed response unit in the police, so I guess that doesn't really count.
This is always going to be the case when a single city has over 12% of the country's population.
Exactly. You're more likely to know someone with a gun if you live in the countryside anyway. The only people I saw holding guns in London were two Police Officers on the beat around Waterloo Station when I used to walk to work from Waterloo to Piccadilly Circus and outside the US Embassy when I went for my visa interview last month. Oh, also one of my dad's ex coworkers had a gun, but he was in an armed response unit in the police, so I guess that doesn't really count.
slinger1968
Sep 1, 03:51 AM
Mac users pay... $129! Windows users pay... $399! Which is cheaper?Your little scenario is completely unrealistic. I know you want to throw that big $399 number around to try and prove your point, but please stop, it's pointless.
Someone upgrading from XP to Vista will either buy the upgrade version of Vista or if they are smart they will buy the full version oem. Your reasonable max amount to upgrade to Vista Ultimate is $259.00 and that's the MSRP (it wont stay $259). Plus you are assuming everyone is going to upgrade to ultimate, I know you don't want to mention that many people will uprgrade to home basic which is cheaper than OSX.
An oem full install of Vista ultimate will be under $200 based on the retail to oem pricing of all of Microsoft's OS's since win95. I expect an oem of Vista Ultimate will be about $180 at Newegg within 6 months to a year of it's release.
Retail box sales of windows is a tiny tiny fraction of the total sales of windows. It just makes those that continue to bring it up look silly because you don't understand the PC market. I've used PCs for over 20 years and have never known anyone who's purchased a full retail version of windows. I've used apple comps for over 25 years now too.
People need to stop with the "OMG windows is $400" talk. It's just silly.
Someone upgrading from XP to Vista will either buy the upgrade version of Vista or if they are smart they will buy the full version oem. Your reasonable max amount to upgrade to Vista Ultimate is $259.00 and that's the MSRP (it wont stay $259). Plus you are assuming everyone is going to upgrade to ultimate, I know you don't want to mention that many people will uprgrade to home basic which is cheaper than OSX.
An oem full install of Vista ultimate will be under $200 based on the retail to oem pricing of all of Microsoft's OS's since win95. I expect an oem of Vista Ultimate will be about $180 at Newegg within 6 months to a year of it's release.
Retail box sales of windows is a tiny tiny fraction of the total sales of windows. It just makes those that continue to bring it up look silly because you don't understand the PC market. I've used PCs for over 20 years and have never known anyone who's purchased a full retail version of windows. I've used apple comps for over 25 years now too.
People need to stop with the "OMG windows is $400" talk. It's just silly.
kas23
Mar 12, 11:11 AM
well for me is more like i dont want to pay nearly 2000 euros for a machine thats 9 months old and may be updated in a few weeks.. it may not but i rather wait and spend my money wiselly..at least thats my opinion
Exactly, would anyone buy a car for sticker price when the next year's model is coming our in 1-2 weeks? Heck no. That said, this is the best time to get a great deal on the older model because the dealers usually drop the prices significantly. Buying a computer shouldn't be that different. Even Apple thinks so, because you can buy the older model for cheaper in the discount/sale section.
Therefore, even if you don't care about the latest technology (and this is perfectly OK), it would be foolish to buy a MBP right now. These same models will show up in the sales section in 1-2 weeks for a few hundred dollars cheaper. And if you still want to throw your money away, I'll gladly take it instead. :)
Exactly, would anyone buy a car for sticker price when the next year's model is coming our in 1-2 weeks? Heck no. That said, this is the best time to get a great deal on the older model because the dealers usually drop the prices significantly. Buying a computer shouldn't be that different. Even Apple thinks so, because you can buy the older model for cheaper in the discount/sale section.
Therefore, even if you don't care about the latest technology (and this is perfectly OK), it would be foolish to buy a MBP right now. These same models will show up in the sales section in 1-2 weeks for a few hundred dollars cheaper. And if you still want to throw your money away, I'll gladly take it instead. :)
skunk
Apr 7, 04:35 PM
iStudentUK, I understand what you are saying and agree with some of it. People do tend to develop their own worldview and then pick and choose external sources (religion, social groups, philosophies, etc.) to support the view they have already decided upon.
However, I can't agree that the Bible is "neutral" or relative in that it can correctly be interpreted in any way someone chooses. The Bible is clear in it's express purpose as God's revelation of himself to mankind. The Bible is judged and interpreted against itself using the literary and textual tools of interpretation that we have available to us.
Like all communication it can only be correctly interpreted in light of the intended meaning of it's original author. This is where faith comes into the process. Followers of Christ hold to the belief that it is God's inspired and inerrant word. The living God is it's author and he inspired men to write within their own historical and literary context to specific audiences at a specific time. All of these contexts become clues that help guide us to His intended meaning.One of many gods staged a coup d'�tat in heaven, or so claimed the exiled priests who wanted to assert their authority over their congregations by differentiating themselves from the competition. The only difference between the Hebrews and the other nearby cultures is that their priests claimed that the chief god they all shared had demoted his team to messenger status. In so doing, of course, they also slighted every other religion.
However, I can't agree that the Bible is "neutral" or relative in that it can correctly be interpreted in any way someone chooses. The Bible is clear in it's express purpose as God's revelation of himself to mankind. The Bible is judged and interpreted against itself using the literary and textual tools of interpretation that we have available to us.
Like all communication it can only be correctly interpreted in light of the intended meaning of it's original author. This is where faith comes into the process. Followers of Christ hold to the belief that it is God's inspired and inerrant word. The living God is it's author and he inspired men to write within their own historical and literary context to specific audiences at a specific time. All of these contexts become clues that help guide us to His intended meaning.One of many gods staged a coup d'�tat in heaven, or so claimed the exiled priests who wanted to assert their authority over their congregations by differentiating themselves from the competition. The only difference between the Hebrews and the other nearby cultures is that their priests claimed that the chief god they all shared had demoted his team to messenger status. In so doing, of course, they also slighted every other religion.
slackersonly
Sep 6, 08:33 AM
Woot!
Existing line upgraded
New size addition
Price drop
Solid approach by Apple. Looks like I am one step closer to getting my family (parents 60+) to switch. Man that will make my iLife :D so much easier.
C'mon 17" iMac refurbs for $899.
Existing line upgraded
New size addition
Price drop
Solid approach by Apple. Looks like I am one step closer to getting my family (parents 60+) to switch. Man that will make my iLife :D so much easier.
C'mon 17" iMac refurbs for $899.
rxse7en
Oct 16, 07:54 AM
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AP_piano295
Apr 27, 03:15 PM
Did you notice how he put it? "On the media"?
Skunk you can be a good liberal and recognize the disparities in how our society treats/views different races, while also recognizing the very real presence of disparities in group behavior(s).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States
The graph at the bottom of this page shows that black persons are on average 5 times more likely to commit violent crimes than white persons.
This problem is REAL the media may dis-proportionately report on crimes done by black men. That doesn't mean the disparity doesn't exist. There is something wrong here and refusing to acknowledge the problem will not make it go away.
Skunk you can be a good liberal and recognize the disparities in how our society treats/views different races, while also recognizing the very real presence of disparities in group behavior(s).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States
The graph at the bottom of this page shows that black persons are on average 5 times more likely to commit violent crimes than white persons.
This problem is REAL the media may dis-proportionately report on crimes done by black men. That doesn't mean the disparity doesn't exist. There is something wrong here and refusing to acknowledge the problem will not make it go away.
MacRumors
Aug 2, 04:18 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)
A blog notes (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/08/hijacking_a_macbook_in_60_seco_1.html) that two hackers are demonstrating a security flaw in the Macbook's device driver that would allow them to "seize total control over the machine".
...this attack can be carried out whether or not a vulnerable targeted laptop connects with a local wireless network. It is, they said, enough for a vulnerable machine to have its wireless card active for such an attack to be successful.
Similar vulnerabilities have also been found in corresponding Windows wireless drivers but the two are demoing the vulnerability on the Mac due to Apple's recent advertising (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/05/20060501211004.shtml) on Mac OS X's security.
The vulnerability has not been described to be "in the wild", and the two have been in touch with Apple, Microsoft and other companies responsible for the drivers.
A blog notes (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/08/hijacking_a_macbook_in_60_seco_1.html) that two hackers are demonstrating a security flaw in the Macbook's device driver that would allow them to "seize total control over the machine".
...this attack can be carried out whether or not a vulnerable targeted laptop connects with a local wireless network. It is, they said, enough for a vulnerable machine to have its wireless card active for such an attack to be successful.
Similar vulnerabilities have also been found in corresponding Windows wireless drivers but the two are demoing the vulnerability on the Mac due to Apple's recent advertising (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/05/20060501211004.shtml) on Mac OS X's security.
The vulnerability has not been described to be "in the wild", and the two have been in touch with Apple, Microsoft and other companies responsible for the drivers.
sierra oscar
Aug 24, 12:10 PM
It was only hours ago I read that the batteries in Apple's products were cleared.
What is the source of this recall?
What is the source of this recall?
AidenShaw
Sep 6, 08:29 AM
When they come out and we both buy one, can we have a little MacRumours party topic? We can dance all night long! ;)
I would be so happy!
I'll wait for the Media Centre Edition to ship - that's one of the "super secret" parts of OSX 10.5 that hasn't been shown.
I would be so happy!
I'll wait for the Media Centre Edition to ship - that's one of the "super secret" parts of OSX 10.5 that hasn't been shown.
Digital Skunk
Apr 12, 07:10 AM
Students pay either less (edu-discount-not just in the U.S.) for their Mac, buy a refurbished model or buy a used Mac from the previous owner. In the best case, this reduces the price of a previous generation Mac to one third or even to 25 percent of the original price.
And who says, students are rich? You, or what!? *lol*
No way, I never said student were rich. I was making the distinction between paying over $1000 for a Mac and not having the $350 needed for one of the suites. It really should be in their price considerations.
Or . . . they can always run the same software on a PC. ;)
i agree - as an independent myself I really have to justify outlays based on revenue potential. I no long can just write a purchase order and spend the corporate cash. OTOH, it has made me more aware of other tools beside the big guys that do what I need at a fraction of the cost.
Right. When you eat off of your gear you're always going to find ways to not spend SO MUCH on said gear so you can put more food in your mouth. Which is why I really don't have an issue claiming student-ship if I am able to. I personally don't do it with certain software titles, but I will do it with Apple hardware and others. AVID Media Composer is $2500 regular price give or take a few $100s. The EDU version is $295 . . . . . okay I am going to hop on that EDU bandwagon right now.
Just as the lenses you acquire in still/video photography will cost more than your body, software will be the major cost in building any rig.
Neither have I, but if the require a cash outlay plus a monthly fee then it'll be a non-starter for many small businesses or freelancers. If they really want their business (and maybe convert some people who use pirated versions) they'd make it a flat fee, pay as you go deal; with maybe a cheaper rate if you buy x months at a time. That would let people jump in and out of the products as they need them, get support from Adobe, and help them decide if they want to buy or continue to rent the software.
I wouldn't want to assume that Adobe is doing that way only because it sounds too nice. It'd be if you could just obtain the software via trial then rent the apps.
Just as with Apple and Thunderbolt . . . Adobe has left me with a few major questions.
OK, so we've established that you are a pirate, AND a hypocrite.
I used to pirate then stopped. A responsible businessman should and in some cases has to when they use their software and hardware for legitimate purposes. It's a major tax write off at least.
I was still in college when I was using CS1 and CS2. Either way, I eventually grew up and purchased the EDU version of the software with my own cash. And at that time by the way, hacked versions were far more unstable. You couldn't update them, you had to run patching scripts ever so often, plugins wouldn't work or would crash the system etc. It was just better to have the legit copy and keep it moving instead of spending time troubleshooting your scripts.
I don't know how it is now, but I know that it was that way up until CS3 based on the students at my job that still pirated software.
No, not 100%. You can't possibly know, unless you've surveyed every CSX pirate there ever was. Case in point. You have a full time job, and in this inflating economy, it's not enough to support your family. So, you try to do a little work on the side - just to help pay the bills. Does this person have $1200 to spend on the software? No way. Would he like to? Of course, but his family comes first.
I am sure said person (who doesn't work in the design field) would want to take up design and production as a part-time/tennis shoe money job to support their family yet doesn't have the money to get CS so they just steal it??????? :confused:
This person wouldn't want to get a part-time job that doesn't need him to steal? Or he/she could just claim he's/she's a student/educator and pay for the EDU version . . . at the VERY LEAST.
No, again. not any goofball can learn Photoshop and Illustrator. You need to have a certain amount of talent in order to make sense of the tools your are working with. Also, each one can enhance the usability of the other over time with practice, and a lot of trial and error.
Read the comment thoroughly. ANYONE can learn the apps, any goofball like you stated yourself in the bold. I didn't put any time restraint on this goofball. But I did mention that it take far more to be a good designer.
So everyone who pirates qualifies for the EDU version? Is lying to get the EDU version better than pirating the full version?
Yes it is IMHO. Far better than just taking it. At least you are paying something for someone's work. Using your student ID at the movies, camera shop for film and agitator, Apple store, etc is far better than just stealing from them out right.
No hard feelings bro.
And who says, students are rich? You, or what!? *lol*
No way, I never said student were rich. I was making the distinction between paying over $1000 for a Mac and not having the $350 needed for one of the suites. It really should be in their price considerations.
Or . . . they can always run the same software on a PC. ;)
i agree - as an independent myself I really have to justify outlays based on revenue potential. I no long can just write a purchase order and spend the corporate cash. OTOH, it has made me more aware of other tools beside the big guys that do what I need at a fraction of the cost.
Right. When you eat off of your gear you're always going to find ways to not spend SO MUCH on said gear so you can put more food in your mouth. Which is why I really don't have an issue claiming student-ship if I am able to. I personally don't do it with certain software titles, but I will do it with Apple hardware and others. AVID Media Composer is $2500 regular price give or take a few $100s. The EDU version is $295 . . . . . okay I am going to hop on that EDU bandwagon right now.
Just as the lenses you acquire in still/video photography will cost more than your body, software will be the major cost in building any rig.
Neither have I, but if the require a cash outlay plus a monthly fee then it'll be a non-starter for many small businesses or freelancers. If they really want their business (and maybe convert some people who use pirated versions) they'd make it a flat fee, pay as you go deal; with maybe a cheaper rate if you buy x months at a time. That would let people jump in and out of the products as they need them, get support from Adobe, and help them decide if they want to buy or continue to rent the software.
I wouldn't want to assume that Adobe is doing that way only because it sounds too nice. It'd be if you could just obtain the software via trial then rent the apps.
Just as with Apple and Thunderbolt . . . Adobe has left me with a few major questions.
OK, so we've established that you are a pirate, AND a hypocrite.
I used to pirate then stopped. A responsible businessman should and in some cases has to when they use their software and hardware for legitimate purposes. It's a major tax write off at least.
I was still in college when I was using CS1 and CS2. Either way, I eventually grew up and purchased the EDU version of the software with my own cash. And at that time by the way, hacked versions were far more unstable. You couldn't update them, you had to run patching scripts ever so often, plugins wouldn't work or would crash the system etc. It was just better to have the legit copy and keep it moving instead of spending time troubleshooting your scripts.
I don't know how it is now, but I know that it was that way up until CS3 based on the students at my job that still pirated software.
No, not 100%. You can't possibly know, unless you've surveyed every CSX pirate there ever was. Case in point. You have a full time job, and in this inflating economy, it's not enough to support your family. So, you try to do a little work on the side - just to help pay the bills. Does this person have $1200 to spend on the software? No way. Would he like to? Of course, but his family comes first.
I am sure said person (who doesn't work in the design field) would want to take up design and production as a part-time/tennis shoe money job to support their family yet doesn't have the money to get CS so they just steal it??????? :confused:
This person wouldn't want to get a part-time job that doesn't need him to steal? Or he/she could just claim he's/she's a student/educator and pay for the EDU version . . . at the VERY LEAST.
No, again. not any goofball can learn Photoshop and Illustrator. You need to have a certain amount of talent in order to make sense of the tools your are working with. Also, each one can enhance the usability of the other over time with practice, and a lot of trial and error.
Read the comment thoroughly. ANYONE can learn the apps, any goofball like you stated yourself in the bold. I didn't put any time restraint on this goofball. But I did mention that it take far more to be a good designer.
So everyone who pirates qualifies for the EDU version? Is lying to get the EDU version better than pirating the full version?
Yes it is IMHO. Far better than just taking it. At least you are paying something for someone's work. Using your student ID at the movies, camera shop for film and agitator, Apple store, etc is far better than just stealing from them out right.
No hard feelings bro.
AgentElliot007
Mar 25, 05:22 PM
Great. iPad 2 stuck in recovery mode with 1013 error. Updated an iPad 1 on another computer (same hardware) with no problems. Not cool...
walnuts
Mar 29, 11:03 AM
i hate voice recognition software...no matter what it's integrated with. i think it's gimmicky and rarely works reliably. pass
LeBron James mother arrested
gnasher729
Nov 7, 10:49 AM
The MacBook doesn't need a Core 2 Duo processor. Apple needs to leave a gap between the MacBook and the MacBook Pro.
That is marketing for losers.
If there is a gap, and Apple doesn't fill it, someone else will. An artificial gap like this one, when Intel's price for Yonah and Merom at same clock speed is identical, just annoys people. At the moment this is still acceptable; Merom production is not a full capacity yet, and you can't expect Apple to update all products simultaneously, but in two months time MacBook sales would just disappear.
Smaller screen, smaller harddisk, integrated graphics, these are all things that people can accept because they save money. Using CoreDuo doesn't save Apple any money; that kind of gap would be just taking your customers for idiots. And I could not possibly imagine that kind of thinking from Apple at all.
That is marketing for losers.
If there is a gap, and Apple doesn't fill it, someone else will. An artificial gap like this one, when Intel's price for Yonah and Merom at same clock speed is identical, just annoys people. At the moment this is still acceptable; Merom production is not a full capacity yet, and you can't expect Apple to update all products simultaneously, but in two months time MacBook sales would just disappear.
Smaller screen, smaller harddisk, integrated graphics, these are all things that people can accept because they save money. Using CoreDuo doesn't save Apple any money; that kind of gap would be just taking your customers for idiots. And I could not possibly imagine that kind of thinking from Apple at all.
skunk
Apr 8, 01:41 AM
I could type up a bunch of stuff, but this website (http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/triunity.html) does a good job of covering all the bases regarding our difference of opinion on this matter. Here's two quick excerpts:.The link you give contains:
The Hebrew word translated "God" is the word El or Elohim. Elohim is the plural form of El. The plural form is used 2607 of the 2845 times the word "God" is used in the Old Testament. Not only is the word for God usually used in the plural form, but several verses refer to God as "Us":
• Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." (Genesis 1:26)
• Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- (Genesis 3:22)
• "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." (Genesis 11:7)
• Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?" Then I said, "Here am I. Send me!" (Isaiah 6:8)
An example of how the Hebrew word Elohim is used in the plural is that it is translated "gods" (referring to idols) 235 times in the Old Testament. It is exactly the same word that is translated "God," referring to the Almighty. An example is given below:
"I am the LORD your God [Elohim], who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. "You shall have no other gods [Elohim] before Me. (Exodus 20:2-3)This seems far more likely to be referring to a literal plurality of gods than some revisionist gestalt. Occam's Razor would come down on the side of plain old-fashioned polytheism every single time.
As for this:
Finally, there are a number of verses in the Old Testament in which the triunity of God is directly expressed:
• Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His Son's name? Surely you know! (Proverbs 30:4)Yes, we do know his son's name: it was Baal. Every Canaanite knew that.
The Hebrew word translated "God" is the word El or Elohim. Elohim is the plural form of El. The plural form is used 2607 of the 2845 times the word "God" is used in the Old Testament. Not only is the word for God usually used in the plural form, but several verses refer to God as "Us":
• Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." (Genesis 1:26)
• Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- (Genesis 3:22)
• "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." (Genesis 11:7)
• Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?" Then I said, "Here am I. Send me!" (Isaiah 6:8)
An example of how the Hebrew word Elohim is used in the plural is that it is translated "gods" (referring to idols) 235 times in the Old Testament. It is exactly the same word that is translated "God," referring to the Almighty. An example is given below:
"I am the LORD your God [Elohim], who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. "You shall have no other gods [Elohim] before Me. (Exodus 20:2-3)This seems far more likely to be referring to a literal plurality of gods than some revisionist gestalt. Occam's Razor would come down on the side of plain old-fashioned polytheism every single time.
As for this:
Finally, there are a number of verses in the Old Testament in which the triunity of God is directly expressed:
• Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His Son's name? Surely you know! (Proverbs 30:4)Yes, we do know his son's name: it was Baal. Every Canaanite knew that.
Damek
Jul 24, 03:53 PM
people are always worried about "save the trees..." and "there's too much over-population..." Have u ever flown over this country? there's thousands of acres of nothingness. i'm confused.
And if we filled it all with people, they would all die. We need that space. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_footprint)
Specifically, however, I'm not sure how much of anything iPod ebooks would save. Sure, if everyone switched to electronic books, all the printing & transportation infrastructure surrounding printed books would stop consuming resources. And just one iPod could function in place of hundreds of books. Want to read a new book? Copy it to your existing iPod.
However, the duplication/transfer of all those ebooks would be carried out by computers, and many more iPods would have to be made to display them to people. The production of so many devices and the running of so many ebook servers would use resources, and electronics are chemically dirty to produce.
Someone would have to do a rigorous resource-use trade-off analysis. I don't think the sustainability benefit of one or the other is at all obvious.
And if we filled it all with people, they would all die. We need that space. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_footprint)
Specifically, however, I'm not sure how much of anything iPod ebooks would save. Sure, if everyone switched to electronic books, all the printing & transportation infrastructure surrounding printed books would stop consuming resources. And just one iPod could function in place of hundreds of books. Want to read a new book? Copy it to your existing iPod.
However, the duplication/transfer of all those ebooks would be carried out by computers, and many more iPods would have to be made to display them to people. The production of so many devices and the running of so many ebook servers would use resources, and electronics are chemically dirty to produce.
Someone would have to do a rigorous resource-use trade-off analysis. I don't think the sustainability benefit of one or the other is at all obvious.
slinger1968
Sep 3, 05:08 PM
And those who say that this is just an upgrade price are incorrect. This is the full retail price for a complete boxed install set.All Mac OS packages sold on their own are upgrade kits.
Under the EULA you can only run Mac OS's on Mac Hardware and all Mac computers come with the OS. So what you are buying is an upgrade.
Under the EULA you cannot buy and install a Mac OS for a computer that didn't already come with the Mac OS.
ALL Mac OS's sold on their own are upgrades.
Under the EULA you can only run Mac OS's on Mac Hardware and all Mac computers come with the OS. So what you are buying is an upgrade.
Under the EULA you cannot buy and install a Mac OS for a computer that didn't already come with the Mac OS.
ALL Mac OS's sold on their own are upgrades.
CorvusCamenarum
Mar 29, 03:21 PM
If a country's regime committing human rights abuses was really the USA's reasoning behind intervention we would have invaded Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc. Simply put, the USA cares if and only if there is some vital interest to be obtained. I haven't quite figured out the strategic importance of Libya to be honest. Who knows, maybe it'll be just like how massive lithium reserves were (re)"discovered" in Afghanistan after we invaded (they have been known about for almost a century, but it seems to have escaped the history books somehow).
Well, Libya does have oil. Maybe once we help the al-Qaeda-allied rebels (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html) get rid of Gadaffi, they'll sell us some.
Well, Libya does have oil. Maybe once we help the al-Qaeda-allied rebels (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html) get rid of Gadaffi, they'll sell us some.
justflie
Nov 7, 12:22 AM
I'm guessing on absoutely know actual knowledge that the new macbooks will appear either today (tuesday) or a week from today. Or the week after that. Or the week after that... :rolleyes: